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LoL Levis problem with my scouts is very popular lol topic have 3 sides now 
unfortunately, the only exploits that people care about is hs and es. cancel on kushan bay doors dont matter. everyone uses it. even “reputable” people. and cancelling scouts is legit
hiprocritical peolpe use cancel on kushan death door *** SLS and SMURFS ***
and SLS needs to be strait with us all if the wiggy F2 F4 scouts are gonna accepted then they need to accept it when its done to them 
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i have had SLS on many occasion call me and ESer then they HSed when thats all i was doing was that F2, F4 , zzz thing with delt’a or claws of 3
time to make a choice accept it or rule it out not accept it when you use it but refuse to accept others using it back.
i had havoc tell me i was cheating with es about a week ago , however i see that there are many who think it is not cheating. the take home message for me is only use it on poor sots who don’t know what it is, then own them for three years and never tell them how to do it, like you all did to me. then if you see anyone doing it call them a cheater if your HS didn’t work and flame them a bit and leave the room crying. 
that was icabod but it wont let me log in ghey
that isnt wrong. PERIOD
SLS … sigh. id have to say really…bay door cancelling doesnt differ w/o. it isnt that much faster.infact it is even better not to.
You guys need to figure out how to log in and stay logged in.
PM me if if you need pw changed or something like that.
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n00bSLS chainSLS lexSLS and ghostySLS have all accused me of ES when using the F2 F4 zzzzz. all i say back is check record pkts and you wont be amazed that ther was no scout bugs by me 
i agree with bay door cancel is usless on all ships accept for grav well cause u can keep it in MS longer and have it turned on making it unkillable for up to a minute if done right before it falls out. in that time the wall can be smoked.
with rest of ships they kinda fall out back and sit there till u get them moving/attacking kinda slows up the works since when they come out on their own they come out in front ( unless fight is behind ur MS at the given time a dessy comes out ) kinda useless 
oh nice for a missile dessy tho cause u can make it spray missiles as it comes out.
nice for carrier cause u can hyper it while its inside MS as well same with rest u can cancel then hyper it right away.
Guys, start logging in before posting, it makes stuff almost unreadable if you dont.
F2,F4 it is cheating if you assing them fighters, really fast and constantly change them like if it were the zzzz button, were you hit it very fast, instead you do it wit the F2, F4 that is bug my dearly friends.
Just like Fatboy does, but he does it with formations instead of tactic combo and hitting that like if it were the (z) key, is bug scout, that means its cheat.
I think i gave you some tips and training Icabod. I Helped you.
Are the rest comments have to do with me? cause they dont make sense. hehe.
Cause as far as am concern you didnt laid a finger on me on either games we had hehe. Not that am judging by skill level whos more than who here, but you acted a little wierd, by writing that down. Point out if i misunderstood you. care guys.
well havoc it would apear that F2 and F4 changing is accepted by every when they are using it ( IE the SLS guys and smurfs ) but when you use it on them its ES
thats just poor sportmanship in my opinion. i know a forum of ES that doesnt use any of the F1-F11 keys at all
maybe its time to start a patition to have homeworld patched and see if we can convince Vivendi Universal to do it
what would fix scouts is if hiting a formation key would make all your scouts stop dead for 5 seconds to take on the new formation making them easy targets then people would never change formation in battle and same for changing tactics make it take a few seconds and scouts sit still. and have it so kami scouts wont push enemy scouts and will just speed up enough to hit them instead. but of corse a patch will never happen sigh
sorry havoc , but after game with you i have made concerted effort not to use f2zf4zzz kf2z f4zzz. tonight i played a game and as soon as my scouts met the other guys , his scouts start dancing around doing the f2 f4 thing. by the time i can react my scouts are gone. took like 3 seconds to kill 30 of my scouts with me being good boy in micro formations and just f4zzzzzz. because im trying to be good boy that changes course of entire game because he uses same scouts to kill my collectors.
My question becomes, if I play all honest and I die looking stupid to some smurf, won’t i have more fun if i toss my high morals into the wind, start smurfing under the name of esomatic, and win some games. then all you folks with morals higher than me will know not to play games with esomatic, and ill have all the fun killing poor sots like the dude did to me tonight.
Is it not fair to hit any damn keys on the keyboard any way you want , other than reprogramming the game, and win? Tonight it would have been the do unto others before they did unto me principle. Its not like there arent one gazillion other smurfs and old timers coming on without our high and might morals doing it and cleaning up the floor with the advanced mediocre players like myself. What ever happened to alls fair in love and war.??
its sad when people resort to bugs but since all of the SLS are hiprocritical on the F2 , F4zzzzzzzzzzzz tactical scouts i now use and accept them as well but i have a lagit scout tactics that owns it altho it uses light vettes as well wich i did release in our private strategy area
SLS use the F2 F4 thing and call you a cheating ESer when u use it then they HS you ;| but i just stop my fighters and let them kami but i got no problem with most of the SLS dolts it just annoys me they will defend the hell out of their use of these scouts then turn around and call you a cheater for using them on them
You for some reason keep refering to SLS as a group.
I don’t know of anyone in that group that is using that kind of scouts me for example only use scouts on f4 with the occasional z then switch them to f2 when i have other ships to attend to and then just leave them hanging.
On the other hand i have neve5r accused you of using es either and the only thing i counter es with is meaner es
But nm wich SLS are these that you talk about all the time?
The only ones i see online are me and balrog at the moment.
Hey Lex, excuse Lags, hes mentally challenged. Welcome to our humble home
Just let everyone use the damn bugs, it will be even then.
Ah ok Icabod, i know what u mean by that, oh well what more can we do if now evryone knows the damn bugs and using them, but i gotta point that the ones who began using them were SF, not all of you guys but a few, and that all started since you guys put this kinda topics in here, and i bet the ones who didnt know, now they do since they been reading all this and been experimenting with the f2,f4 tweaking, and constantly change of formations. I mean i know some of us already knew it, but that doesnt gives the right to use them on others. But i guess to many ppl are using it now
mhh a patch would be interesting, less stress when swarming.
On the other hand i like swarming hehe.
its mostly n00bSLS he will keep rapidly changing F2 F4 zzzzzzzzz then if i do it back he will do full ES or HS like i buged him 
and a quote from in game from you lex " fatboy is that ES " when he was using same thing F2 F4 zzzz
noob actually used a diff scout tactic for the last 6 months he played i just think its a bit too much to retarget every 3-4 seconds
And as for Fatboys scouts in that 4v4 they were as they often have been before indeed es but hey i know he likes em and as long as we both can use the same stuff i don’t mind
actualy i checked teh pkts from record it was just F2,zzz,F4,zzzzz