vader > all
obi won only beat him once during his time as an aprentice later vader stirkes obi won down altho obi allows it and becomes a presence in the force or something probly like qui gon gin who discovered how to return in a sense to a place of existance where obi won could comune with him.
so ya vader pwns them all 
i mean he needs the training to actualy do it but his power potential is beyond every jedi or sith to ever exist
Yet Vader never could beat obi. Not before the mask, not after it. Obi may not have been able to win that fight on the death star but vader sure couldn’t bring obi down either. Obi had to let vader kill him to keep from holding up the others.
obi was only buying time he had no chance at beating vader at that point in time vader had to put in no effort at all he was toying with obi
if u recall it took every thing obi had to take anikin down in episode III and only cause anikin was so enraged he acted before thinking if he was of stable mind he would not have made that final attack that left him open for obi to take his legs and arms like that so easy.
I thought this thread was about what happened to LS forums?
You can thank Malone for side tracking the thread and Lagsy for side tracking it more. LOL
Talked to esg, he says he knows basically whats going on and should be able to fix it as soon as he gets the original passes, which I never got from… ahem Lags… so Lagsy, bro, if you could hook up with esg, that’d be great, lol
Yay! Warnings for everybody for side-tracking an important thread.
Mod beats everybody who spammed! But no real warnings.
well thanks to me and my nice good doing ways even tho peeps hate me for it 
LS forum is be back up and running soon ( there are no such passes cutty its probly a server problem ) I contacted support for ESG and got an email back saying they will fix it as soon as possible.
i am jut too good at what i do ( good thing i am not part of the light side ) the dark side is just way more sex0
*Me hates lags but also appreciates all he’s done for HW. Maps, forums etc, hes a good guy to have around!
Well, i dont really hate him, its just fun to bish him around a little! 
You the man, lags